How to select a Coton puppy?

by Steve Kostyal
(hungary)

How do I select the puppy for me?

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Feb 01, 2015
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by: Vicky & Jonah

The Title is 'Dogs 101 Puppies" they just flashed it on the TV. I was sitting here watching it here in AZ when I remembered ur post. It was on here from 10 am-11 am February 1, 2015 if this helps any finding it to watch on web.

Feb 01, 2015
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by: Vicky & Jonah

Today on 'Dogs 101' Animal Planet (Super Bowl Sunday) they discussed how to pick a puppy. Personality & Temperament selection for your lifestyle. Usually you can view it on the web.

Highly recommended segment. Covers just about all u need to know.

Jan 29, 2015
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by: sherry cotton candie

When we went to choose ours --- she seemed to select me. she came right over soon as I sat down, I held her and she sniffed and I got kisses. She layed down on my lap and did not move. At one point I put her down to hold another one and she came right back.

She growled at my husband and he says that is the one we want--because he thought she had attitude----believe me she is full of it.
We adore her and she has been the best dog ever.

I agree with the previous comment, just watch and see how they interact and maybe you will be lucky enough to get chosen, lol.

Be prepared to spend lots of time with them, they are a people dog and do not like being left alone.

Jan 29, 2015
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by: Anonymous

Hi there, I just thought I'd mention how i selected my lil fluffernutter. She was the runt of the litter and the quietest one. I had heard from watching Cesar Milan quite a lot that if you choose the active and wild puppy you might end up with a difficult to train and very active dog when he or she grows up. I'm ill and needed a dog who would cuddle and adapt to whereever she needed to be. For me it worked out really wonderfully. So I guess what I am saying is if you want a calm dog pick the "boring" puppy. If you are looking for a ball of energy pick the active puppy. My coton turned out to have the best of both, she is a clown and silly and active when the occasion calls for it and chilled out when need be too. I hope you get a wonderful lil companion!

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New Puppy Questions

by Crystal

Hello! Thanks for your helpful website! I am the proud owner of a 5 month old Coton! He came home with us 3 days ago. He is already showing great improvement in leash walking and potty training.

However, I have a few areas of concern. We live in an apartment complex and have already received complaints about his barking when we put him in his crate. We made the mistake of making him sleep in his crate in the laundry room instead of our bedroom. I will try tonight to see if that works. But I am afraid he will bark incessantly if we crate him and we leave the house. Any tips?

Also, our little Coton is a boy. He has taken an obvious liking to me, and not my husband. Granted, I am more experienced with dogs and my husband has never had a pet. Our dog probably senses my husband's inexperience/hesitation. I know there is a learning curve for the two of them. But can I expect those two to become closer? I hear male dogs bond more with female owners? I really don't want our Coton to be "my dog." I want our dog to love both of us. Any tips?

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Oct 29, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah

Creating is a good thing that u can leave ur home & come back w/no worries.Also it prevents ur dog from chewing items which may hurt them. There is a newsletter on This site which covers creating.

As long as both of you are involved in play exercise & such ur pup will be fine with either.

Enjoy your new puppy & congratulations.


Oct 29, 2013
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by: sherry cotton candie

Congrats on getting your new coton puppy. Lots of different ideas and advice from all of us. While all new puppies need to settle in, and become familiar with their new surrondings yours at 5 months has an advantage over one 8 weeks. you will be fine with him. My little girl was also 5 months when we got her and she acted like she owned the place her first night. (now she does own our place, )

I think cotons in particular single out one person to be devoted to. In our case it happens to be me----however she loves her daddy but it is me that she runs to first and will cry after. if he feeds him treats, takes walks and plays with him he will learn he is a really good guy also. I do not believe male dogs do not like men. We have friends who have males and some of them are devoted to their daddys.

It is hard to know what they do while alone but I would hope the tenants in your bldg would be a little understanding given the fact it is all new and scary for him to be alone. maybe leaving the tv or radio on would distract some of the outside noises and make him feel more comfortable.

Good luck with him and let us hear how he is doing.

Oct 29, 2013
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by: Iris

I have posted this before, regarding barking and separation anxiety. Please understand your expectations may be a bit premature about your new puppy behaving like he is feeling secure in his new environment. I got my Coton when he was six weeks old and took off work for a week to bond with him, I won't tell the whole story again, except that I never knew he ever barked in the four months I had him in my apartment, I would come home late from work and always find him sleeping behind the bathroom door. I didn't even know he had a voice.not until I was getting ready to move out, then my next door neighbor blasted me with her complaints of my puppy barking, crying, howling all day and night every day. I didn't realize how fearful and lonely he was. He came from a breeder who had four little girls who played with and cuddled them all day, and both the parents of the puppies were there to nurture them. I felt terrible. I would have made a different decision had the breeder not convinced me a Coton puppy did fine in an apartment environment.

Oct 28, 2013
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by: Anna

I live in a condo and have a 4.5 month old male Coton. Good or bad, he has been sleeping with me and my 3 year old Coton on my bed very night and has not peed or pooped once. I have pee pads down and he started using them immediately. I would baricade him in the bathroom when i left the first month or so but now i leave him out all the time. Now that he has had all his shots he goes on walks with my other dog and me and loves going outside for bathroon breaks. He barks too but not unless someone comes to the door or he sees a huge dog on our walk that he wants to take on. Treat him like family and he will become family.

Oct 28, 2013
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Biting?
by: Anonymous

Dogs bark..plus you got him so late at 5 months old..he might not have been socialized. For the owner of the biting dog..that is unacceptable behavior..Cotons shouldn't be biting. I don't believe that they don't like men..it's all in the socialization.

Oct 28, 2013
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Boy Cotons
by: Gaston

It is my experience with male Cotons, that they do not like grown men. I've never had to worry about Gaston or Cousteau around babies or young children, but they have bitten grown men as they are very protective of me. When my 2.5 y/o, Jacques Cousteau acts grumpy: growling, sneak-biting, etc with my boyfriend. I defer to him to discipline Cousteau for that. I don't want to be involved with negative reinforcement of the behavior. My boyfriend's trick is to pick Cousteau up & flip him over, scratch his belly. I would also encourage your husband to also be a feeder, a walker, a disciplinarian and other fun tasks, so the puppy knows he has to respect both of you.

As far as the barking goes, tell your neighbors to chill. He's a scared little puppy and is still adjusting.

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House training a puppy with no garden?

I am getting an adorable Coton de Tulear puppy this Friday. He will be 9 weeks old and a bit, he is 10 weeks on Tuesday when he has his second vaccination.

I'm worried about how I am going to house train him for now as I don't have my own garden - it's a communal one shared with other people in my flat building. I have not seen any dogs in the garden since I moved here, but I think there have been some people with dogs here before.

I don't think its worth the risk of toilet training him outside just yet, so, unfortunately I am going to have to train him with puppy pads inside :(

Will I be able to "unteach" him these bad habits of going inside? Will he just be totally confused?

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May 28, 2015
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by: sherry cotton candie

Congrats on getting your new puppy. You will be totally in love as they steal hearts very quickly. As for potty training what others say is true. Pick whatever word you choose to use----I would say "go Pee" ( they still will pee on command when told this.)

Pee pads are great and although mine are 4 and 6 yrs old I still keep them down, I don't feel its a bad habit if they go where we want. They are wonderful in allowing them to relieve themselves if we are delayed.

If you see puppy walking with head down and sniffing grab him and put on pee pad. Use whatever word you want and praise big time if he does anything.....they catch on fast but do not expect too much too soon. There will be accidents even when trained.

When you do decide to take him to garden just carry poopy bag and clean up, neighbors will love you for that. lol

Good luck with your new baby and hope to hear more as he grows.


May 27, 2015
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by: Anonymous

Saylor Jane is trained to go outside but if our schedule changes I leave a puppy pad out. She will do ANYTHING for a treat so I always take a small treat outside when we go to potty and as soon as she potties, I treat her and tell her what a good girl she is. It works wonderful for her! When we first started going outside, our trainer had us to ALWAYS take her out on a leash so that she knew she was outside to do her business and not to play. He also had us to consistently use the same word "potty" so that she would associate the word potty with the task she was supposed to do. She is now better trained than my husband...lol. Good luck. You will LOVE the Coton breed!!

May 27, 2015
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by: candilea

You can train him to go outside for sure! Our Coton was 6 months old when we got him, and not housebroken, but he usually peed on pads. Now, he is 2 years old and we leave a pee pad inside (just in case). Most of the time, he goes outside, but everyone once in a while, when we leave him too long or have an irregular schedule, he uses the pee pad. It's nice because there isn't much to clean.

Each dog is different. Ours took a long time to fully train to go outside - he finally became consistent at about 1 year and 9 months old. The key is consistency - don't give up! They watch, listen, and learn from everything you do in the first few years.


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Puppy temperament

Hello,

We have a 10 week old Coton since 7 days at home. He is very attached to my daughter, but I don't think he is affectionate much. It seems he doesn't need stroking and playing, and he bites us. Is that common for puppies or is that a question of temperament?

I have no experience with puppies, but I thought, coton puppies are more gentle..

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Sep 07, 2012
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Biting and affection
by: Angie

Puppies bite, it's what they do. Biting does not mean that the puppy is not bonding with you. Also, it takes time for Cotons (any dog) to adjust to new surroundings. Our Sophie was not living in great conditions when we got her, and it has taken her years to become the sweet, happy, well-adjusted girl she is today. Give your new baby time and lots of love. He'll come around.

Also, keep in mind that all dogs are individuals. Sophie likes to be near us, but she is not a lap dog and does not demand a lot of attention. Don't *expect* any specific behavior, rather just appreciate your dog for his own personality.

Sep 06, 2012
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by: GASTON

Cotons are mono-bonders. They will ID a human & stick w/them. The growling & biting can be modified. I must admit that my 1.5y/o, Jacques Cousteau has his moments, but I have been successful in correcting a lot of this boundary testing behavior.


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Puppy temperament
by: layhan

Hi there! my coton is very affectionate, when they are little puppies they love to bite but you should tell them if it hurts you and stop the behavior saying nicely no.
I will recommend you if you are on facebook to join the groups: Coton de tulear facebook group, Coton Tales, and maybe also Cotonist tales.

In any of them you can post the questions and there are very experienced owners, trainers, groomers, breeders and so is very helpful with anything you actually need. Personally i like the first 2.

So join the groups is worth it and lots of people can give you great advise :)

Regards

Sep 05, 2012
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by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

I do not know about other Cotons but Jonah is not needy. He does not always have to be next to me or under foot. When I watch my friends Bostons when I move they move. I never have a seat to myself. Jonah is affectionate but if I'm busy he just goes & hangs.

We do alot of things together such as walk, go to dog park, we play frizee, ball & other games or tricks. He is a very good boy.

As far as teeth all puppys like to chew fingers they need maybe a puppy nylabone & a no since this is not a good habit to continue.

A good thing to do since this is ur 1st puppy is to go into a Petco & Petmart & read through some of their books & then pick the one u feel helps u with the knowledge that will benefit u the most & purchase for continued use. Do not feel u have to hurry @ these stores reading either it is important to select the one with the most info u will use.

Their are also Coton books that u will find here on this website. I have not read them but if u email Gail she may be able to help with how much actual puppy info r in them.

The reason to invest in a puppy book is that it will help u learn to correctly crate train, puppy proof, basic training, potty train etc. By getting help w/puppy things u will be able to leave ur house & have Peace of Mind for when u return home & that it is exactly as u left it. This way u r happy to see ur pup & they are happy to see u.

The pup will also not have chewed a favorite item or maybe ended up having to go to the vet for something they got into. I hope this helps. Good luck let us know how its going.


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How much should a Coton puppy sleep?

We just got a 7 week old Coton and he seems to sleep almost all day and night. We can only seem to get him up to play for a couple 30 minute sessions a day. Is this normal?

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Aug 26, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah

This is normal.
Puppies this young eat,sleep,pee,& play. They should be feed 3 times a day small amounts each time until about 6 mos. if u can then twice a day. In the older days most pups left their mom at 8 wks now many keep pups w/their moms until 12wks so 7 wks is pretty early. Since ur pup has left its mom so early I suggest if u can let it sleeps in ur arms or close to u when u can.






Aug 12, 2013
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by: sherry cotton candie

That does seem very young to be taken away from mommy.
Cotons are not energetic dogs, they are low key-do love activities but for short periods of time. My girls will play chase or rough house for maybe 5-10 minutes and they are wore out.

He will stay awake longer periods of time but just be patient and give him lots of love and more love. They are so loving but thrive with alot of attention.

Also it might be best if you did not take him to parks or around alot of dogs until he has all of his shots.

Good luck with him and please keep us informed as to how he is doing. We all love coton stories and pics!

Aug 12, 2013
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by: Iris Miller

I got Tuffy at 6 weeks and he came from a breeder who had four little toddlers playing withe the puppies. I knew he had gotten a lot of loving attention before I got him and also knew not to leave him alone. I took him to sleep with me that night, and took a week off work to bond with and nurture him. He was so good, he snuggled with me, played, and never peed o the bed. I taught him every night go pee on the pee pad. I set up a kennel in my oversized bathroom.
Sadly, I did have to go back to work and didn't have a dog sitter. Tuffy was very lonely, I learned weeks later fro the next door neighbor, he cried and howled, When I got home at night I found him behind the bathroom door. If I'd know he was so fearful I would not have taken him away from his family if he had to be left alone. The Coton is a very social dog and is happiest with constant companionship.

Aug 11, 2013
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by: Anonymous

You got him too early. Did you get him from a breeder? Probably not because a coton breeder would not release a puppy before it's ready to go to it's forever house. Usually 12-14 weeks. Be patient..your baby will come around.

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Introducing a new puppy to 2 year old dog

by Mary
(Oh)

We have a female that is 2. Brought home a 5 month old and they are not getting along. What to do about the fighting and biting.

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Dec 31, 2012
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by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

Just try & remember ur 1st dog always gets the 1st dinner plate put down, treat, pet, kiss hug. If ur older dog is laying on the couch by u & growls when pup comes up immediately take action & remove frome couch & put on floor to show behavior will not be tolerated.

Its hard to know what the problem is ur having. Above is a generic suggestion to an action that mostly comes up.

Dec 28, 2012
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by: Kathy from SC

Here's the video link from the first time I let the puppies (Poppy & Tulip) out of the laundry room to play with Daisy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv5ojvzd_cw

Dec 28, 2012
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by: Kathy from SC

I brought home 2 coton puppies in May 2011. I brought them home on Sunday. I kept the puppies in the laundry room separated from my other 2 dogs (a 6 year old coton & a 16 year old lab cocker mix). The dogs could see each other -- I had a divider in the doorway to the laundry room. My very old dog would have been fine with the puppies, but my other coton was very fearful. I let her curiosity build & her desire to play. On Wednesday, I decided that she was ready to let the puppies come out of the laundry room. I was still careful and supervised them when they were together.

Now my puppies are almost 2 years old and the 3 cotons are all the same size. Daisy (the older one) is still the boss. She has a favorite (Tulip, the smallest in the video) and let's her get away with anything.

Dec 28, 2012
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by: Anonymous

We had the same problem when we brought home Dixie-Sugar. 9 week old Coton/Havanese mix and a 7 year old Beagle. It took several weeks and constant supervision and now they are best buds. Just be patient and supervise.

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Is a Coton de Tulear puppy worth the effort involved in buying one?

by Frustrated
(AZ)

I am absolutely frustrated at this point. So frustrated that I will probably give up my search.

I lost my wonderful 13 year old lab recently and started a search to find a perfect companion dog. After considerable reading, I found the Coton de Tulear and thought I had the answer.

Then the real fun began, when I tried to locate a puppy to buy. First, there are so many organizations explaining why their standards are the only correct ones and if you don't buy from their recognized breeders, you will not get a true Coton.

Secondly, the listed breeders request deposits on dogs that are not even conceived yet. They also have applications to complete to see if I am a suitable parent for their dog.

Then there are websites. Some say they have puppies available, but that information was posted in 2011. Or you contact a breeder and they do not reply at all. Or they reply but will not reveal the price. And the price, anywhere from $900 to $3000! What is the difference? Puppy mill to breeder to the stars. Some breeders who talk about high standards try pawn off defective dogs, ie: underdeveloped, pigmentation problems.

All I want is a good pet.

Anyway, the breeders of the Coton de Tulear are making these dogs very undesirable in my opinion. Is there a better way to buy one of these dogs and are they worth the effort?

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Jul 16, 2015
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Love my Coton BUT... NEW
by: Anonymous

First of all I want to say that I love my Coton. She has a sweet personality and is very loyal. However-I had a similar experience when searching for her. My Aunt has one which is what piqued my interest and got me researching the breed. The more I read the more I wanted one. I started saving and considering my options. I was so enthused that I was looking into therapy dog training, and potentially breeding! I wasn't ready yet to commit to breeding, I wanted to own my own coton for at least a year before I made a decision on that but I wanted the option so my savings and the type of breeders I looked at reflected that. It took about 3 years before I was ready to buy so this was something I really had worked toward and looked forward to. My first obstacle was similar to yours. The few breeders that I initially deemed fit were not actively breeding or they were looking 2-3 years out (we have deposits on several litters and we only have one per year...) I was hoping to have the dog in under a year so those were out. Keep in mind that some of those breeders I had contacted throughout the 3 years, but nobody got back to me until I had emailed/called several times. The other problem I encountered was that MOST of the breeders that I communicated with were incredibly rude. I wasn't just looking to buy a dog, I was hoping to find a breeder that I could approach with questions (grooming, breeding, etc.) Should they come up later so that limited me even further. The next obstacle that I faced was that either they refused to home a dog with young children (I had a preschooler at the time) or they only sold pets or both. So after expanding my search and talking with about a dozen breeders and having no real potentials I had to rethink my process. I had my heart set on a ctca coton but those breeders were the rudest of them all. I literally had to drop my price range to find someone that treated me like a human being and had a litter planned that year. I found a woman in Nebraska that claimed she and her family (several households) ran breeding programs (a few different breeds) but considered themselves as one kennel and were represented under one website. Seemed legit. When I inquired about her dogs she got back to me in a timely manner and was actually kind! She said she loved questions and was happy to answer them, of which I had and she answered all of them. She said that Indy, a travelling coton entertainer was from her facility (that checked out) and that her pups came litter trained with multiple registrations, one of which was AKC which didn't interest me because, it really doesn't have strict guidelines and,
at the time, cotons didn't even have full AKC registration. I was told there was an additional fee for breeding rights, not a problem since I was looking at a lower price than originally anticipated. So everything seemed to check out so I put a deposit down on a female pup that was supposed to be due around mid march (she had an approximate date) but I work in maternity so I know that due dates don't typically mean they will actually deliver that day. So I was thrilled after all the time and effort spent on this search to finally have a deposit down! Unfortunately, as soon as this woman had my money her tone changed. I only bothered her 2 or 3 times from there until the day I brought my puppy home but it was very apparent that she was too busy for me now that my deposit was down. I was a disheartened but I had wasn't backing out at that point. So my puppy came with only an akc registration, none of the others the woman advertised and had clearly never seen dog litter. The woman claimed she never said her puppies came with the registrations that their parents carry (when I asked what registrations her puppies came with she said her dogs came with UKC, AKC, etc. Which is deceiving). She did say that I could pay to send her back and get a partial refund. I chose not to lose $800 in shipping fees and just keep her as a pet, but I did want the fee she charged for breeding rights (which turned out to be AKC breeding rights). She is loyal to me but I have really had to work with her on certain things. She bit my daughter once (she wasn't even a year old yet and now she is 2 1/2 and has never bit her since) amd she will not house break. We still have to treat her like a puppy, crate her when we can't be completely focused on her and only give her access to 1 or 2 rooms at a time. Now that I have had her for over 2 years I know that I would only ever breed if I was able to invest all of my time in it, like once I retire. The grooming requirements of her alone (in a puppy cut) keep me busy, I couldn't imagine having to manage 2 or 3. So my point in all of this is that, yes, it's very discouraging that people that breed these dogs (and yes I do believe it is specific to this breed) are so difficult to work with and I would only do this again under certain circumstances.

Apr 13, 2015
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finding a Coton puppy NEW
by: Iris

I saw on facebook today Ceasar the dog whisper posted a picture of a beautiful Coton puppy found in a trash can.he was letting us know she's now in a caring loving home.
Maybe your efforts should include rescues. So many beautiful dogs. They are grateful and make the most loyal pets.
I'm sure your going to find a perfect companion. Best of luck.
It's true about the cotton texture of the Coton de Tulear hair. It's like Coton balls and q- tips and matts very easily. I have the same complaints about groomers shaving my dog down. I mostly do as much grooming and trimming as I can because I have not found a groomer yet who will respect my wishes for the style my dog's hair should be. I tell them skip the matted parts I will take them out myself. No use.

Apr 13, 2015
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by: Anonymous

This is an absolutely wonderful breed but please, please do your homework. AKC means absolutely nothing and most ethical breeders in the US are against AKC because they are pro puppy mills. Take your time in really researching a breeder and go visit. There is no substitute for meeting the parents and seeing where the dogs are being raised. You will save yourself heartache and $ by buying from a reputable breeder. Visit the American Coton Club's website to find a code of ethics breeder. It will definitely be worth the wait!

BTW, I have a pet quality Coton who is 4 years old but he was purchased through a code of ethics breeder. There are way too many people posing as small breeders who are really running puppy mills. It doesn't matter if you are looking for a per or a show dog - use a reputable breeder!

Mar 23, 2015
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by: Anonymous

I got my Coton at a rescue shelter, so lucky, best dog ever, yes he is a little more work with the grooming, but he gets to sit on my lap while
i bush/comb him,great bonding timeā€¦.love love love this dog.

Feb 26, 2015
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by: jeanne

I brush my coton (1 yr old male, Bentley) daily, but recently at the groomer I picked up what looked like a white rat! Because Bentley chews at his feet/ allergies? The groomer said he had matts and to even out his body he was shaved down. Only his head looks like a Coton. How can I keep him from biting his hair which causes matts ? I would love to keep his coat longer, but the groomer is not making it easy.

Feb 24, 2015
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by: Susan

Vets Choice Little Bites
(800) 992-9738
34# bag. $41 + $25 S&H lasts 3 months
I order online for my 2 Cotons. They are 3 yrs old. Organic.
It's all I've ever fed them. They digest it very well.
The breeder recommended this food.

Feb 23, 2015
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by: Anonymous

It took me three years to find my Coton. I had actually given up on finding one when Saylor Jane practically feel into my lap. She was 10 weeks old when her mommy and daddy were suddenly transferred to Japan. It was love at first sight for me and she is the perfect dog for our family (even if she does turn green quite often from my koi pond). Don't give up. They are worth the search. Saylor Jane is glued to my heels and when I go to work her grandfather comes over and lets her and Aligrace out and let's them play outside. Grooming is rough for me sometimes because SJ hates to be brushed but I get around it by giving her lots of treats while grooming. I truly hope you find what you want and like everyone else I am a big believer in rescuing. Aligrace was rescued and she is so perfect!! Good luck!

Feb 23, 2015
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Puppy worth the effort NEW
by: sherry cotton candie

I understand what you are saying. I fell in love with the breed first time I saw one and was fortunate to find what I thought was a good breeder with-in an hour of us.

We went and looked and bought a little 5 month old girl. She looked adorable to us and she bonded immediately with me. ON my lap and never got down.

Breeders assistant said she was not show quality and we had to agree to neuter her. No problem, we did. We love her soooo much and she has been the best dog ever.

Since buying her I have learned a lot about breeders and we never were really screened or anything like that. I don't know her bloodlines but I have a dog that is perfect (for us) and it doesn't concern me.

I think perhaps we might have been lied to about a couple things, we were not given papers of any kind which at the time I didn't think was important. Maybe they were, I just know we have a wonderful little dog that we adore and she is very healthy.

I hate the thought of puppy mills, we later rescued a dog from one and it was a nightmare for months. They are not cared for and she had been abused. I do know our first one did come from a real breeder, just did not deal with her as she was out of state at the time.

Just know they are worth the effort but do require a lot of love, attention and do have separation anxiety. They are a people dog and not for someone who is gone a lot of who only wants to give them a pat on the head now and then.

Good luck and hope you will not get discouraged, there is a special little puppy out there for you.

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by: Vicky & Jonah

As a Coton breeder I am wondering what kind of food you feed your Cotons & y? This is really an information ques. I'm not asking to judge or say what's right or wrong I'm just asking to absorb info & knowledge. I always believe the more that is learned about diff foods is a good thing.

Thank u for your input ahead of time. If you feel it is not appropriate for me to ask I sincerely apologise.

Feb 23, 2015
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by: Hopecrest Cotons

I am a reputable breeder of Cotons. I health test all of my breeding dogs and I am the breeder of the number one Coton in AKC. I do not have puppies now. I breed infrequently. I have a huge issue with breeders who accept deposits before even confirming a pregnancy.

aNY good breeder will interview YOU to see if the Coton is the right match for your home and lifestyle. If they do not, run! Run fast! A responsible breeder is in it with you for the life of your dog and they want to make sure any home for one of their babies has the same commitment. Look for breeders who have bred and own champion dogs! Have the breeder send you links to the Orthapedic Foundation for Animals public listings for the health testing done on their breeding stock. A good breeder will have this information ready and available to their potential buyers when they are planning a breed pairing in the immediate future. Beware of the breeder who always has puppies available. Don't accept "champion pedigrees".. If the breeder is not showing their own dogs and yet saw the value in purchasing dogs from champion pedigrees there is a disconnect in what their goals for breeding are.

In Arizona you can contact Melinda of Whispering Lane and Bill and Vi Day of Daydreaming Cotons. They are the only Coton breeders actively exhibiting their dogs in your state. Risa Knapp has beautiful dogs but I do not think she will be breeding this year. Each of these responsible breeders will let you come to their home and meet the dogs and meet the parents of your future puppy. There is also a HUGE AKC show in Pheonix this month where you could go and meet the dogs and owners.

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by: tana

We all don't Have to have show quality dogs. My
little guy is as cute as can be and he can be registered at the United Kennel Club but I am not going to bother. I got him from a breeder in Spokane, WA.

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by: Vicky & Jonah

You can also find them on Facebook & message them & they can direct you also Coton Rescues will help you. Good Luck.

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by: Vicky & Jonah

These dogs r wonderful little dogs. If you want the temperament a Maltese, Poodle mix falls in category & a Havannese. You see alot saying these dogs have separation anxiety so do most dogs or you would not see so many videos about the subject.

Alot of grooming goes into this breed so it's a decision ppl need to decide. If your looking for a puppy quality tell the breeders. Dogs do have a longer life span if fixed. A good breeder of any breed doesn't have a problem w/you checking out their living quarters.

Check out the breeders as they check you out. These dogs just became AKC & this year was the 1st for them at Westminister. If you have spent time on this site you will see alot have been rescued. Unfortunately non are immmuned to puppy mills.

I didn't notice where you live but by searching the web you may find you have breeders in your area. Just a suggestion but be as tough on the breeders as they present their papers intimidating tactics to you. A quality of a bloodline is not always decided by the price they r charging for the breed. Just sayin.


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by: Amy

We have a litter of beautiful puppies due the first week of April. Our pups are pure bred Cotons,and registered with both AKC and UKC. The parents of this litter also both have championship bloodlines. My male is a Woodlands Cottage dog,out of Spain. You may visit our website for more information: www.CharlotteCotons.com

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by: Anonymous

Well said, Renee. Your response was so honest and provided a lot of great information for anyone struggling with the breed. We have had a few problems with our wonderful baby girl, Chloe, but we love her so much that no problem is so big that we can't overcome it. I would never give up on a Coton, they are the best breed for so many reasons and the only breed I would consider. I would like to find one that I could rescue and provide with a loving home. When loved and cared for with compassion they will give back so much joy and love to you. I hope that owners with talk to other owners and get help if they are having a problem with their Coton. This website is a wonderful resource. Thank you Renee for sharing your story and to the "Frustrated Owner" don't give up. Keep reaching out and you will be glad you did.

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by: ViviYah

If you are on facebook, there are several wonderful groups of people who own or looking to own a Coton. Check this one out. I posted your comment on their page and there are several comments. I know someone in the group can help guide you.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ Cotondetuleargroup/

What part of the country do you live?

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I am sorry for the loss of your dear Lab. They are such sweet loyal dogs. I understand your frustration. I hope you'll find the new companion you're seeking. I love my Coton . he's my heart.
If I has to find a replacement for him there'd be no other. If I must then the next time I would adopt a homeless mixed breed dog,and one that is low maintenance.
When I chose the Coton breed it was out of emotional necessity and physical place of residence. I trusted the advice of the breeders.that they are lap dogs, not. That they do well in apartment environment. Not. My dog is independent not a lap dog. My dog loves the outdoors a d loves to run, jump and play just like most dogs. Like people, they all have I individual personalities. Also be advised, the Coton does not have fur. Their hair is like human hair and gets easily matted.They require serious attention to constant grooming. Good luck and I'm sure whichever dog breed you choose you're going to give that lucky dog a lot of love.

Feb 23, 2015
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Thanks everyone for your comments. I will continue to look for my Coton.

Feb 23, 2015
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by: Anonymous

If you have to ask about any dog - you shouldn't buy one. If you need a pet go to a shelter and pick on that doesn't have a home. Going from a large dog to a smaller one might be a problem also. Good Luck - not sure if your ready for any other dog

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by: Reenee

My Coton came to me when I thought I wasn't looking for a dog. No dog, I thought, could ever replace my professional Winston who had a tragic unexpected ending three weeks before CoCo's birth. I Googled "DOGS FOR SALE" in my local area, one night when an inner whisper urged me. Up popped ONE picture only & I instantly knew! Then I did my research and become quite confused as all the items your post listed.

Another local breeder helped me verify the validity of the pup's owners, their true breed, lineage. I was able to Google the registeration on line. The price difference was as to many different items. An example, the other breeder was 2x the price but she guaranteed her puppies for one year including things like beoken legs. The breeder of my pup had no guarantees. The more expensive breeder had pups only once a year as to not stress the mother. The breeder of my pup had 5 Coton's and their pups were available more often. My particular pup was "the runt of the litter", 11 weeks old, skiny and with pink hair under the eyes. He was shy, fearful & trembling when we met. The second I cuddled him to my heart, I knew, and his tremblling turned into a purr, Yes a "purr"!

I was given the pup "on trial" as to a Vet examination. The Vet reported good health. I still wanted to return the pup, as to his skinny condition and pink eye hair, his fearfulness, his trembling, even strange behaviors like possible seizures at night. I held him near each night in my arms, in my bed, as he appeared to have psychotic fits. His eye pupils would rool-back and all I could see were his whites. His eyes were open, his legs sticking up in the air, and I couldn't wake him as he shook & cried. I allowed him to sniff lavender essential oil briefly to calm the "fits". I Tapped between his eyes repeating "We are safe, this is Sptember 11, 2014" (a Kinesiolog PTSD trick). PTSD is Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

The breeder didn't come back to collect the money, or the dog, for a week. When I gestured to return the pup, the pup refused to leave my arms. By this time I'd fallen in love with him and the inner voice wispered "who else can nurse his vunerable emotions, but you. He needs you".

The pup witnessed several $100 bills pass hands, X two!

When the breeder left, the pup in my lap licked me and kissed me, a full-blowen French kiss! I now had a puppy!

He scratched & scratched his hair/skin. I shampooed him well, with natural product, and homemade him fresh flower-water spray mist for natural flea control, from my garden. THE scatching left. I held off on more vaccines as he had a whole list of multi shots, too much for any pup in my opinion.

He refused to use the scented pee pads, so I sniffed them myself. They stunk. I changed them to "unscented" pads. BINGO!

The puppy was too fearful too pee outside after dark. I installed path-way lights, a long string of 0.5 watt light bulbs. BINGO!

When I let him play in the back yard he ran in circles, over and over, over & over, like a psychotic "nut". I decided his name was to be CoCoNut! My guess was he had never SNIFFED fresh grass before, HEARD bird real sounds, or felt WIND blowing. I held him tight and explained what each sense was. He licked me, French kissed me! His trembling left.

The skinny pup wouldn't eat the dog food the breeder brought. I changed him to home-cooked meals. BINGO. He ate like a little piggy and fattened right up. He eats with me, his own glass plate. No metal or plastic container for this dog - He will only eat out of natural glass plates!

I used Jojoba oil, blended with sweet orange essential oil drops, on his coat hair and brushed him 3x a day. Bingo! His hair turned shiny, full and healthy.

I used Bach Flower essence Rescue Remedy for his fear, his trembling. I massaged his back, legs & belly. He gained self assurance and assertiveness.

The commercial product for pink hair (under the eyes) (the breeder brought) didn't work. I changed him to natural salt water solution. The pink left.

He was with adverse walking instruction, reaction, to the plastic "strap" harness. I changed him to the Thunder Light theory-type harness, one that had material that supported his back & belly. It was of cotton fabric. He pranced like Royalty, wiggling his behind like a Prince!

I began to listen to HIS talk. A jump on my leg meant: "Let's go Pee Pee outside", a tiny Ruff bark, meant: "I NEED TO POO". My shoe dragged to my feet meant: "I need to go Pee Pee RIGHT now!" and a roll of toilet paper spread down the hallway meant: "I need to Poo Poo right NOW"!

When he Barks aggressively at passer-bys, at the window, we go together, outside, "to ckeck it out". He watches 'em passer-by's intently. I say "We're Safe" and he comes back inside, calm and relaxed. No excessive barking problems with this Angel.

He turns his noise up to ALL commercial "treats" with perservatives. He loves fresh Apple bits, cooked Yams, cheese, freash butcher-meat leg marrow-bones (no antibiotics, grass fed calves), and loves Olive Oil with his rice & carrots. Ckicken strips, oven baked with salt, he yums! Crackers, potatoe chips and ice-cream are his favorite "bad yum-yum treats".

His water and dry food dish is available at all times. No schedules. His dry food is with real vegetables and fruit, no perservatives, no GMO.

He jumps the "hulla-hoop", finds "Rudolf" the toy pet in his hiding spot, chases and returns blue balls, red balls and yellow balls, by color name. He "watches-over" OMA, the grandma babysitter, while I am out. He visits "Uncle Sid" while mommy needs to shop. And he rides the store "Cart" when we visit Pet Smart and other stores that permit "doggies". He "watches-over" the CAR when mommy has to do a "Quick -Run"!

I never did get a chance to purchase "The Crate" for night sleeping. CoCo snuggles in my duave bed, on HIS side (his bed) in his P.J.'s, lying with his head on HIS pillow. Wisper "Sleep-Sleep Time" and he closes his eyes, like an Angel. No psychotic fits!

CoCo has now grown at 8 months (three days ago), from 3 lbs to 10 lbs. He knows our three garden property lines. He is most obedient, extremely intelligent, expresses a wide range of emotion, wishes only to please and offers sweet love licks 'in mommy's ear' upon awaking as to softly say: "Pee Pee Time, mommy!".

It's those big black eye "stares", long stares in bed each night, when I hear his wispers: "I'm a very old Angel soul you know".

On September 9th, 2014, the winds ruffeled the grass leaves upon the River walk, a walk my prior dog, Winston and I did 3x every day for years and years. That day, September 9th, I was still in total grief. The wind ruffelled the Autumn tree leaves upon the grass and several beams of Light Ray's shone through at SunSet, no matter the direction I stood. The Wisper came: "Google: West Vancouver Dogs For Sale".

24 hours later CoCo was in my arms.

I believe my puppy was returned to the breeder, psychotic-like, from too many back-to-back vaccines for an 8 month old puppy, in a new home that forced their strict training Will upon this delicate, fragile, soul. He came to me for HELP from innocent abuse - someone that thought, perhaps, he was just "a dog".

Your upcoming experience with a Coton De Tulear may become the best Angelic experience you may ever encounter. Take the risk. Be a good mommy.

I Googled "Woodland Cottage" in Spain recently. Their cover page Coton De Tulear photo is the spitting image of my CoCo - his lineage!

There's more real breeders of full-breed Coton's than you may have surmised. CoCo's parents came by to visit him after his first month with me. His birth mom "licked him" forever that afternoon! And CoCo licked her too, just like he licks me every night in our "Together-Bed"!

In my opinion all breeders of Coton's are good people. I was told my breeder ran a "mill" because his three female dogs produced "too many puppies" in a "garage". Luckily I was born on a farm. All our farm puppies, kittens, cows, pigs and chicken's were birthed in "a Barn". I remember every one of my close house pets as a little girl: they were ALL born in a Barn.

CoCo came to me with no name, no Pee Pee pad training, no puppy training other than his natural birth mom "puppy training". He was a natural puppy virgin.

I paid $1300 CDN for my Angel!!

Probably others did pass him by - City folk. Probably others thought 'natural' puppy birth had an adverse inference. Lucky for CoCo I had been born on a farm too, had sensitivities to commercial perservative products too and was intolerante to flea powder toxins and vaccines.

CoCo and I are best friends! He's sleeping upon my shoulder in this moment, in our "Together-Bed". Together, "We're Safe"!"

If you are an emotional being, in my opinion you will be blessed with the best, smartest, most loving puppy ever!!!

Coton De Tulear.

CoCo is not neutered. I would never perform invasive surgery. If he wins THE DOG SHOW some year he will still have his natural stud capabilities. He is SO alert, I would never want to rob him of his natural instincts. I'm 62 and I never permitted a personal Hysterectomy. My ovaries, according to Chinese Traditional Medicine, still produces harmones. I am on no medication drugs, neither is my 93 year old mom who lives with me and CoCo! My Mom eats fresh Apples every day, too!

I hope my heart felt sharing, as long as it is, assists you in your decision. I believe it is what "we give", day-to-day, that will determine our doggie's long term health.









Feb 23, 2015
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by: Annette

Without hesitation I would do it again! My Louie is 10 years old and an amazing pet and companion. They truly are a remarkable breed.

Feb 22, 2015
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by: Anonymous

I will say this. Cotons are wonderful dogs and great pets. Yes it seems to be easier to buy a house than to purchase a Coton!! I live in NC and will be breeding my pair within the next 6 months. I will be selling my for around $1600. Mine are AKC reg and true Cotons.. I am a very easy person to work with and no I do not require applications to purchase my pups. I am an 18 yr vet tech. I know the breed and I know what I'm doing. If you would like a pup let me know. Denise. My email denisevetexpress@yahoo.com. If you're willing to email me I'll shed more light on the subject!!

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New Puppy Question

by Janice
(Canada)

I just brought my Coton home last night, her name is Lacey. She is four months old and I know she will take time to adjust, and I expected her not to eat, but she also has not peed. Also, when I put her down, she basically just sits where I put her and won't wander and explore.

Now, I have to admit, my daughter has her out on the deck the first night and she was smelling the flowers and literally walked right into the pool. I think this might has scared her. I don't want to "train" fear into her. How do I get her out of her shell in a happy way.

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Jun 30, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah

She will b fine. Just let her work it out. U will do fine.

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Is 10 weeks too old to bring a puppy home?

My pup will be 10 weeks when I bring him home. Is it too late? Will he bond with me the same?

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May 30, 2015
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by: Anonym0us

You will be just fine. Coton's love people. They will bond to anyone who loves and pays attention to them. So loving and attentive is our Chloe. She was 10 weeks when we got her and we were pleasantly surprised at how well she adjusted and is soon to be 5 years old in July. Chloe is our precious little girl who loves to go everywhere with us and she always does. Congratulations and be prepared you will get lots of puppy kisses and I guarantee you will be sooooooooooo happy you picked a Coton to be your forever friend.

May 29, 2015
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by: sherry cotton candie

My first girl was 5 months old and we are as close as possible. She got on my lap when we went to look at her and never moved. It was LOVE at first site for us both.

I am not a breeder but believe i have read where some prefer keeping them ten instead of 8. you will be fine.

congrats!!!

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by: Candilea

My pup was 6 months !!! And he is fine!

May 29, 2015
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My puppy was 15 weeks when I collected him due to import regulations in my country. He bonded with me the first night and is still definitely closest to me in the family. He isn't needy though and also enjoys his independence. I did however, spend the first night in a hotel alone with him so this may have helped :) I think some people say it is best to leave a puppy with its mother until about ten weeks so it learns more from its mother.

May 29, 2015
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by: Sally

I got my girls at 11 weeks.

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What is the best way to introduce a Coton puppy to older family dog?

by Rona
(New Jersey)

In the next month we are adding a male Coton de Tulear puppy to our family which consists of me, my husband and our 9 year old English Springer Spaniel, Gus.

Gus gets along well with other dogs and is still quite active, so we are hoping that he will be a great playmate and role model for the puppy. We would like to know how to best handle the initial introduction of the new puppy into all of our lives.

Someone suggested that we have a third party (such as our grown son) bring the puppy into the yard to meet the family. I would welcome any and all suggestions and recommendations. Thank you!

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Apr 05, 2011
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Introduction a Success!
by: Rona

Thank you to all for posting suggestions on how to introduce a puppy to the family dog! "Barney" - our new puppy joined our family about 10 days ago. We exercised our older dog prior to letting him sniff Barney through the fence. Then I slowly brought Barney into the yard to let them get better acquainted, all the while keeping a very watchful eye. When the puppy seemed to tire, we had Gus lead him into the house. They seem to be getting along very well. Gus is getting alot of extra love & hugs (& treats!) from us in his role as big brother. They have a little supervised session each afternoon, which tuckers them both out! The whole experience has been very gratifying for all of us! ;-)

Apr 04, 2011
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by: KATHY

WHEN I BROUGHT TRISCUIT HOME FOR THE FIRST TIME, I PUT HER AND MY BROWN LAB, SNICKERS IN OUR FENCED IN YARD.....THEY WERE INSTANT FRIENDS THEY JUST LOVE EACH OTHER AND ARE ALWAYS TOGETHER... THEY ARE BEST FRIENDS

Feb 15, 2011
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by: Gale

I think having your son introduce your new puppy in the yard is a great idea. Then when it's time to go into the house, let them go in together. Another suggestion is to have both Gus and the new puppy exercised before they meet to help them de-stress.

It's also important to give the puppy plenty of attention WITHOUT making Gus feel jealous or neglected. It sounds easier than it is because puppies just naturally demand so much attention. It's a good idea to give Gus even more attention during those first weeks than you usually do.

Dogs really pick up on our feelings so if you're relaxed and calm they will be more likely to be as well. So congratulations and enjoy your new Coton!!

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by: Joyce

The best way to introduce them is in the yard. They don't feel intimidated. I haven't had a puppy for a long time but our friends just got a male shitsu and they have a 7 year old female lab. Sometimes it's easier if there opposite sexs. Just like humans - Good Luck

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What is the best way to get our coton de tulear puppy to want to be with other family members?

by Kathy
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We have only had our Coton de Tulear, Khole, a week (she's 14 weeks old) and I have read that Cotons really attach themselves to one family member. I am a teacher and will go back to school in August and would like to have her not be anxious because I am gone all day. My husband is home on and off during the day, but when he takes her out, she runs back to the door to come in and runs over to my feet. If I give her to him to hold, she tries to jump off his lap. Also, I am the one who feeds her...

Thanks. We start "puppy classes" today.

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Jul 07, 2011
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by: Iris Miller

Same here,my dog is strongly bonded to me. Tuffy has also developed a litter mate mentality to other family member and an Alpha dog attitude. My adult son lies on the floor or the bed and plays with Tuffy, (making himself lower than the dog,or at the same level, a no-no in dog training law )and Tuffy washes my son's face as if he were his *Tuffy's) puppy. Very cute, but he also growls and paws at the back of his legs if he walks away from the dog, (Alpha dog), even to go out of the room. Tuffy worries about me so if my son takes him out he will go reluctantly and come back nervously searching for me. We are working on his behavior, not allowing him to take that stance, telling him "off" and "NO"!, I stand in front of him between him and the person he is being aggressive to to let him know I am the one in charge, and for him to "Leave It!", If we are not consistent in correcting him he stubbornly reverts to that behavior. He definitely wants to be the boss of us all. Gotta love him.

Jul 06, 2011
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by: Anonymous

I have the same problem with Louie ...my coton. He is wherever I am. I did what was suggested to you earlier. I had my husband start doing things for him...and it is a little better. If I am gone he lays by my husband and waits for me...and he doesn't scream anymore...lol. As soon as I get home he is attached again (I wouldn't want it any other way;o)

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by: Deborah

Well, they are "companion" dogs....they will attach to their person...what I would suggest would be to have your husband start feeding her, walking her...sharing the play time...the bond will build if he is interested and patient...they are very social, smart and want to please....she will come around if you start sharing all the "bonding" tasks.....good luck!

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Does male coton de tulear puppy coat grow faster than female?

by Sara
(Ont. )

I am getting a female coton de tulear puppy in March, and the male puppy has thicker fuller fur then the female. Will her coat get fuller as well? They are 6 weeks old. Any information will be great! Thanks

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Feb 25, 2012
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by: Anonymous

Not necessarily. I am a breeder and the thickest coat I have on my dogs is a female. It varies...

Feb 20, 2012
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by: Kathy S

I have a male and a female Coton from the same litter. The male's coat is thicker and fuller, thus it gets matted easier. I don't know if it's typical. They are both adorable.

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How do I get my puppy to stop nipping and biting?

by Donna

How do I get my puppy to stop "nipping and biting" whenever my children run around with her? My younger son is somewhat fearful of her and every time he moves quickly from her, she follows him with her mouth open ready to play. How do I stop this behaviour, so my son isn't afraid to be around her?

Please advise. This is our first puppy. My older son is very good with her, but is also fearful of the "nipping" issue.

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by: Anonymous

Your pup may be anxious, upset, nervous and scared . The children may be a bit too much for this peace loving dog. Give the children some modifications to their behavior. Limit the excitement, be calm. Respect the love this little coton is about. be gentle, kind, respect his space, set boundaries .

Feb 22, 2011
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by: Gale

It's especially important to correct this type of behavior when small children are involved. Here's some info on puppy nipping and biting that may help. How to stop puppy biting

It may also be helpful to see how other Coton owners handled this type of problem. You can check that out here.


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by: Anonymous

My coton is 7 months old now and still doing it to my boy's as well. When they run around the house it is just so easy for him to play with them like that. I have had the boy's stop where they are when he starts to nip their feet. My puppy is getting better but still loves to join in the fun.

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Why does my puppy smell like dog?

by Sharon
(Michigan)

My pup is 4 months old. Jasmine is the cutest dog I have ever seen. She is a coton poodle mix. Black and white. I bathe her once a week and then the smell is there the next day. Her ears and skin are fine as per her vet. She does play outside with my 2 Siamese cats. She is very healthy. I have tried 2 different shampoos from the pet store.

I know dogs smell like dogs but I think she just stinks. I have not owned a dog in over 20 years, only cats, who do not smell. My house is very clean. I clean her bedding every couple of days. I use doggie wipes when she comes in to wipe her feet. I have checked the labels on her food and treats and no corn or soy products. I just don't get this. How can I make her smell good or have no smell? I realize she is a dog but should she have a dog smell especially after a bath? Help!

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Oct 12, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah

Let us know what VET & friend says. Good luck. I hope it's something simple.

Oct 08, 2013
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by: Sharon

Just gave Jasmine a bath and yep, she still has a slight doggie smell. I am going to rub some baking soda on her tomorrow to see if that makes a difference. When I first got her she would roll around in cat poop outside. I have removed that problem and that does not happen anymore. She is just going out now to do her business because it is getting colder. I am going to try changing her food to see if that makes a difference. It's odd that her bedding does NOT smell like dog. I can smell the soap I washed it in days later. And she does not smell when she wakes up. The cats do not smell. I only have carpet in 2 rooms. Wood and ceramic floors throughout. She does not mess in the house. Going to the vet again for the last of her puppy shots in about 3 weeks. Maybe he can shed more light on this. Also going to have some dog owner friends come over and take a sniff of my dog just to make sure it isn't me not being use to a dog in the house. Maybe I am nuts! But she sure is a sweet cute little puppy!

Oct 07, 2013
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by: Barbara

What is he rolling around in outside? He also might be eating something he finds outside. Our coton does not smell like a dog. I hope you find the cause soon. You might find a different vet for a second opinion and also change your brand of shampoo.

Oct 07, 2013
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by: sherry cotton candie

This is quite puzzling to me. Cotons are known not to have the typical doggy odor and in the past I had a poodle for 16 years. She never had an odor about her, I did have her groomed alot though.

Sounds like you have exhausted many issues - without success. Just a thought but what about changing her dog food? I do not know what else you could do if vet. has checked everything else out. The only times I have smelled anything offensive is when their are ear issues.

Have you tried keeping the dog inside and away from the cats to see if it makes a difference? Good luck and let us know when you find a solution.

Oct 06, 2013
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My smelly dog.
by: Sharon

No fishy odor. It is just an all over doggie smell. When she wakes up in the morning she does not smell. After running around outside the smell starts up. She just plain smells like a dog, It is an all over smell. Vet checked her - no worms. Ears are fine. Glands are fine. Maybe I am just not use to having a dog. She does not have long hair. She looks exactly like a coton not a poodle. Hair is wavy. I rinse off her paws when she goes out. I wipe her face after she eats and goes outside to lick everything in sight. I just don't know why something so little and so cute smells. But thanks for the input.

Oct 06, 2013
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Glands?
by: Emily

Hi there, I have a Coton and I do bathe home about every 3 weeks. He is two years old. Even after a bath he does have a slight dogish smell. Which is fine because he is a dog. However, he does occasionally get a terrible glandular smell from his anal glands. It smells like dead fish. A regular bath will not get rid of the smell. When this happens he goes to the groomer and has his glands "relieved". There is a possibility that this could be your problem. If it is you will definitely know it because the smell is coming from the back end. Good luck!

Oct 06, 2013
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Smelly dog
by: Anonymous

Can you pinpoint where the smell is coming from? Is it the ears, paws, overall skin? One of the common Coton traits is that they DO NOT have a typical dog smell. But ear problems are common in long haired dogs and that can definitely smell bad.

Oct 06, 2013
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It's probably the poodle
by: Anonymous

Poodles have a funky smell to them. A purebred Coton doesn't smell. The only other thing you can check is to see if the dog has worms. Sometimes that can make them smell bad.

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My 6 month old puppy is suddenly crying at night!

by Laurie
(New york )

After sleeping easily in her crate from about 10 pm to 7am, my six month old has suddenly started whining and crying for hours. We alternate the location of her crate between our room and our son's room(when he is away at school) in order to have a little more freedom in the morning as she wakes the second she hears onemof us creeping out of bed.

The location of the crate hasnt been a factor for her up until now. We moved her crate back into my son's room earlier this week when he went back to school but for the last two nights shes been whinig and crying intermittently like crazy.
Has anyone else experienced this?

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Jan 29, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

Thought u might find this link helpful.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/articles/linksbehavior.htm

Jan 29, 2013
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Try covering part of the crate with a blanket.

Jan 28, 2013
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Thanks. We actually tried moving the crate back in the room during the night and she cried even more. Up until now it hasnt been an issue-- she sleeps anywhere we put the sleeping kennel. Will try again tonight with it in our room from the time we put her to sleep and see if thet helps.

Jan 28, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

Dogs r social animals I would imagine since used to knowing u r close & then being by itself is the reason. Pick a place then stay w/it.

I would imagine also since the pup has been good 9 hrs they have to potty right away in the morn. so they will want out ASAP no matter what romm they end up in.

Jan 28, 2013
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by: Andrea

Have you tried placing a shirt of your son's in the crate with the pup? Maybe it's just separation anxiety!

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What does the average Coton de Tulear puppy weigh?

by Audrey
(Washington )

How much do average coton de tulears weigh at 8 weeks old and 10 weeks old?

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Mar 14, 2012
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weight
by: Anonymous

Our little girl Melody, is 17 weeks old. We went to the vet yesterday and she weighed exactly 8lbs. I am hoping she will be small-maybe 10lbs..when are they considered full grown? The vet seemed to think 7months anyone know?

Mar 10, 2012
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Weight at 28 weeks/7 months
by: Connie

Connie was approx 4kg/8.8lbs at 6 months, and is exactly 4kg now at 7 months. Will she have growth spurts, do you think?

Mar 10, 2012
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Beau's weight
by: Marcia

Beau came to live with us at 8-9 months. He was 12 pounds then. At his last vet visit at 16 months he weighed 15 pounds. I asked the vet if he was overweight, and the vet reassured me he was the "perfect" weight for his size.

The vet also told me you should be able to feel his ribs, but not his spine.

Mar 09, 2012
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by: Kathy

I got 2 puppies last year and one was smaller than the other but they were only about a week apart in age (obviously from different litters) . . . Tulip was about 3 lbs at 9 wks; Poppy 4.5 lbs. Daisy was only 3 lbs at 10 weeks. Now Daisy & Tulip are about 9-10 lbs & Poppy is over 10 but probably under 13. Daisy is 6 yrs old & Poppy & Tulip are 1 yr and a few weeks. Daisy got a little heavier last year when I was trying to help my sick dog gain weight (unfortunately it didn't help her).

Mar 09, 2012
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Puppy Weight
by: Betty

My Coton weighed about 4.5 lbs. at 9-10 weeks and now at 2 yrs., he is 16 lbs.

Mar 09, 2012
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Weight
by: Anonymous

According to my Vet, my puppy was underweight at around 4.75 lbs at 10 weeks old...she is now slightly over 7 lbs and will be 12 weeks on Monday. She just got Vet checked today and the Vet said she's the perfect weight...you should be able to feel their ribs under all their fluff, but not their backbone and they should have a little waist as you move your hand down from their back to slightly above their back legs. Probably around 6 lbs would be perfect for 8-9 weeks, and 10-12 around 7! :)

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Spanky Weight
by: Diane

Spanky was 1.9 lbs at 9 weeks old. he was 3 lbs at 3 months, 4 lbs and 4 months and so on. He maintained 6lbs from 6 months to a year. He is now finally 8lbs at 1 yr 2 months old. They are sized anywhere between 8 and 16 lbs by the time they are fully grown. Hope that helps.

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advice for my Coton's puppy's first night at home

by julie&kris
(hastings, mn)

Hi, first of all I love love love this site, its so helpful! It made us decide to get our first Coton, we are so excited to finally bring him home, and we have read about everything just so we are prepared to make him happy and comfortable in his new home, but we don't know what to do on his first night here.

We got him a kennel that is bigger just so he's not too tight in there (24"x16"x16") and a pillow that fits perfectly in there, now our question is if we should put a small piece of the wee wee pad in there on his firsts nights while we potty train him, he's been trained to go in the pad, he's 3 and a half months old now, I'd appreciate your advice!

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May 27, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

I'm sure things have been settling in w/ur new pup. Enjoy puppyhood they r a grt8 breed. Recently their was a good post on raising a Coton puppy & it is under below on this site.

"Mortiarty @ 2y7m" written by Mitchell Tuckness

It is very well written. Cannot wait until we get 2 c a picture of ur puppy. Mine is above on the right side w/the light green grass backgrd. taken at the dog park.

Again congrats & hope all is going well.

May 26, 2013
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Our little guy is now 3 and I remember his first night like it was yesterday! We bought a "Snuggle Pup" through the breeder and she put it in with Hub's litter to get the scents on it. Once home and at bedtime, we made sure he used the pee pad, then put him and "Snuggle Pup" (now lovingly referred to as "pup" which is his best friend) in a small travel crate (not his larger pen). We sat the smaller crate on top of the larger pen and it's right beside our bed and eye level. He settled in fine and slept through the night. Once I heard him in the morning, it was onto the pee pad (I had one taped to the floor in my bath room) and he went immediately. After 2-3 nights in the smaller crate, he moved right into the larger pen and did fine. He finally told us at about 18 mos. he preferred sleeping on a pillow on the floor in our bedroom, but I still crate him whenever I go out (never longer than 4-5 hrs.). My one word of advice: get rid of the pee pads as soon as you possibly can. Set a schedule where you take him/her out at set intervals and it will make your life much easier!
Get ready for wonderful puppy days you never knew existed!!!

May 26, 2013
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by: Donna

I just bought my 10 week old Coton home two weeks ago and I was concerned about the same thing. This is what I did and it has worked perfectly. I have a small crate like yours, I have a bed that fits the crate and then also put some of her plush soft toys on along the edges so she could snuggle up against them since she was used to her liter mates. Also, my breeder provided a little blanket that has her mother's smell and I have that in crate as well. The crate is on my bed so she can see me (or you can set on night stand to keep at eye level) I have her go pee pee just before bed, she goes to bed when I do, lights off and she goes right to sleep with no crying and no need for bathroom during the night. Then as soon as I hear her stirring in the morning to take her out to go to bathroom, all is good!!!

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Coton de Tulear puppy nipping and chewing

by Deborah
(USA)

My little Zoe is 4 months old and is a combination of a very sweet dog and a little nipper. I have tried several things to stop her from nipping, but nothing seems to work. I was hoping that I could get some tips as what to do.

She is also a terribly destructive chewer. She chews EVERYTHING! Wood, shoes, metal, etc. I have tried to put every kind of deterrent on the market on things that I can't move, but she actually seems to like it! LOL!

Advice on that would be appreciated also. Other than that, she is really a sweetie and also a little clown. We adore her, but just wish we could correct her bad habits. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much.

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Apr 30, 2011
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Chewing & nipping
by: Karey Ann & Ziggy - doodles

Ziggy just turned a year old in March of this year. He chewed his share of things to, and we found various chew toys, etc for him, which helped alot. You just have to remember he's a puppy, and ALL puppies will chew it feels good to them & their little mouths. His favorite things were socks!
When he would get destructive with his chewing, we would divert his attention with a chew bone. (Ziggy likes the "chicken Legs" they are country style drummettes that have are actually a dental bone)
Here is the web site, if you can't find them in your area: www.waggintrainbrand.com & they're not very expensive, & there are 5 little "legs" in a pack. They're small, and are great for smaller breeds.
As far as the nipping goes, he's probably playing. Ziggy does it alot when My son is running & playing with him. In the mornings, he nips at my pajama pants, and growls at me, he's only playing. Sometimes during this type of play, he does nip my legs, & the tops of my feet. I usually just tell him to settle down; & if you hollar "ouch" most of the time Ziggy will stop, out of fear of hurting me...
Granted, nothing happens over night, you just have to keep in mind everything is a work in progress.

Oct 18, 2010
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by: Anonymous

I have only had my coton for a month now. I love him to bits. But he does love to chew and he does nip. For chewing we have bought him some small raw hide chewies. He loves them. I never scold him when he chews, I just replace with a raw hide chew. For nipping, well the kids love running past him as he will run behind them and nip at there feet. He has made it a game. But If I just tell him to be nice Very firm, he will look at me. I just repeat every time he does this and he is now starting to calm down with that. We try to divert his attention to other toys. He is happy as long as someone is playing with him.


Oct 08, 2010
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Chewing
by: Iris Miller

Hi I just want to add, remember, the puppy is teething just like a baby, and needs to do that chewing. When Tuffy lost his baby teeth he actually came up to me and put them in my hand or at my feet!!!
It is a good time to play tug of war with them with a soft toy so as not to pull those baby teeth out too soon. I also taught him "ow" and no biting" when he nipped, and being a Coton, very smart, he caught on right away.When he gets rough in play I still say "Ow" in a high pitch voice like a puppy and he backs off immediately.

Oct 06, 2010
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Nipping and Chewing - the puppy days
by: Gale

Oh Deborah, I remember those early months when Luc chewed EVERYTHING. Does wood or metal really taste good? The good news is that he totally grew out of that phase and there are definitely things you can do to change your dog's behavior NOW.

You can read about my experience with Luc and get some tips on how to stop dog chewing here.

I would also suggest you sign up for these 5 free dog training videos from Doggy Dan. One of them shows you how to stop dog chewing by teaching the Redirect command.

The one thing I learned that has helped me the most is that sometimes the most powerful thing you can do to change your dog's behavior is to just ignore her. Sometimes our reactions accidentally reinforce their bad behavior. If we get all upset or give them ANY kind of attention they will keep at it.

As far as nipping and biting, remember that biting is natural for a very young puppy but at 4 months your dog should start to learn that this is no longer acceptable. Keep appropriate items like chew toys around for your dog to nibble on.

When your dog nips at you and you stay calm and immediately (and calmly) turn away from her, she gets the message that there's nothing in it for her. After a few times she should get the message.




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Older puppy adoption

by Charlotte
(London)

We have been given the chance to take on an older puppy, a male Coton of six months. Would there be any problems with socialisation or bonding (or anything else!) that we might meet with a dog slightly older than the norm?

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Oct 11, 2014
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by: Anonymous

No! Wrested, as in forcibly taken away from!!!
Thank you for your comments. It is fun and we will get there. The only thing is that with a five month old the relationship between food and drink ingested and expelled is less direct than with a younger dog which makes potty training a tad more difficult. As I write this, our boy has not had a poo and pee since this morning. It's now nearly midnight. My husband has just taken him for a half hour walk to no avail. We have put him out on the patch of garden where our other dog goes to the loo every hour on the hour ... again, no joy. The only place he wants to use as a lavatory is our bathroom. It's tough, but I'm sure we'll crack it eventually.





Oct 10, 2014
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by: Vicky & Jonah

What do u mean wrestled from large dogs? Was he attacked by large dogs? Shyness is norm. All the new smells of diff ppl, everyone sticking their hands toward them towering ovr them like giants. When your family introduces themselves to the new puppy get down to their level so they aren't so intimidated if they can. If older & they can't they can't it will work out.

As far as potty training they wake up in morning they poop, they pee. They eat they pee. They play they pee. They drink they pee. Right now is the time that if u want them to pee & poop take them to that section of yard every time you take them out to relieve themselves. This was u do not have it all over the yard to step in.

Take them out on a leash & walk with them to make sure they go & leave the porch. You r now teaching them what is expected when u let them out.

Today is also the day if you want to teach them to ring a bell to go out put a treat behind it so they touch w/nose give treat & take them out or for their walk.

You can use a Christmas bell if u have one just use an old tie or rope to hang it at nose level.

How fun your 2nd day w/New family member. Just make sure that if they do not have all their shots they aren't exposed to walking outside the yard or dog parks until protection is in place.

Congrats on your new puppy.

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Older puppy adoption - he's arrived! NEW
by: Charlotte



Well,we got him! Thanks to everyone who took the trouble to tell us positive things about adopting a slightly older puppy, we are now the proud owners of a six month old Coton and he's been with us for one whole day. He is gorgeous. I know it's early days but I just need some reassurance from some seasoned Coton owners that we are on the right track with his potential successful socialisation. He's been wrested from a huge pack of dogs, spent four hours with us in the car and is now getting to grips with our elderly menagerie of dogs and cats. He's never seen toys before and is totally confused as to what one does with them and is totally un-house trained. He was an angel overnight and slept peacefully in his crate (another new element for him to get used to!)We are just about to take him out for a very short walk which should be interesting. He's met a couple of new people so far and seems shy rather than enthusiastic with them. We are going to get there ... aren't we ???!!!!

Sep 30, 2014
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by: Claire

I have just stumbled upon this website after searching for information and I must say how impressed I am. I have had my Coton boy for a week now, he is 5 months old and I was concerned that he would be past the socialization period and would have trouble bonding with us. I know its only been a week but I must say he is a sheer delight! I have absolutely no regrets about him and he has fitted into family life perfectly. A bonus to getting a slightly older puppy is that you can see roughly what they will look like and get an idea of their personality. He is not yet house trained but I am working on that. He is the love of my life and I'm very proud to own such a wonderful and rare breed of dog.

Sep 23, 2014
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by: sherry cotton candie

Good luck with your adoption and no I would not see any problems. My little girl was 5 months and from the first night become totally at ease. She is just the light of my life, when she was 2 we rescued a female who was 4. They get along so well and I think it is in their dna to just adapt to anything.

At 6 months he is still a puppy. Not to say there may be chewing, potty issues and such but I know you will not regret it. They are just the very best dog ever.......let us know he is doing.

Sep 23, 2014
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Jonah was 6 months when I brought him home & he turns 7 this Dec. I do not know where the time went. He is such a wonderful boy.

One thing nice is he should have all his shots including 1st rabies. Then he gets another rabies at 1 yr old that then lasts for 3 yrs.

At 6 they r prime to absorb whatever whatever u would like to teach & love to learn.

Enjoy your new Coton.

Sep 23, 2014
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by: Charlotte

Thank you for your incredibly helpful comments. So much appreciate people taking the time and trouble to help. Delighted there are no negatives yet on our proposal to adopt a slightly older dog. A testament to the loving, adaptable nature of the Coton.

Sep 22, 2014
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Beany was six months old. NEW
by: Anonymous

Our Beany was six months old when we got him he adapte very quickly. He didn't even cry at night. He's a sweetheart and very loyal to us.

Sep 22, 2014
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by: Anonymous

My two cotons were five years old when they came to live with me. They were a breeding pair and lived in kennels all their lives.

Although it took months for them to become fully accustomed to living in a house (training, stairs, collars, etc.), they have adapted beautifully and are loving, cuddly and mischievous companions ... and occasionally obedient if they feel like it! :)

Sep 22, 2014
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by: Mary

Our Coton was 6 months old when we got him and he adapted to our routine very quickly. We had the usual puppy problems of chewing up things and learning to let us know when he needed to go potty. We were told he was pad trained but he refused to use them so had a few accidents in the house. Ours is very loving, cute and just a joy to have. He bonded with me before he did my hubby but now he asks for him to pick up and hold him. Enjoy your new sweetheart and keep us posted.

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New born Coton Puppy question

by Sue
(England)

How much does the average little Coton puppy weight at birth??

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Aug 30, 2014
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by: Vicky & Jonah

It's hard to know the weight w/out the weight of mother. Puppies should gain 1 1/2 grams of wt per day for each # of anticipated adult weight.

To est adult wt of pup, weigh the mom. Pups r usually weighed on gram scales every 12 & 24 hrs for first 2 wks.

Puppies weight gain should b steady & indicates pups r doing fine. When a puppy doesn't gain weight they should get special attn.

Hope this helps.

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Puppy won't come down the stairs

by Janine
(Sarnia ON)

Almost 4 months old our lil puppy recently mastered going up the stairs but cannot come down on her own.

If we go down she barks because she wants to come I think. We go up to the top of the staircase and she barks and backs up! What is she telling us? It is tricky to grab her and carry her down although this is what she wants...I think . Any thoughts? Is there a way to teach her to come down the stairs??

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Jan 30, 2012
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by: Anonymous

My coton was the same way. Then, just before he turned 9 months, he started to go down them on his own and has ever since. You could also try putting her on a leash and seeing if you can lead her down.

Jan 29, 2012
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Puppy, puppy what about the stairs!
by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

I read the comments where Gale put a link. That should really help. Two important pts. in all. Start small 1 or 2 steps coming down to master 1st. If ur steps are slippery please make sure the hair on the bottom of the pads are trimmed.

Also there are products (spray or rub on) u can get to put on the pads so they do not slide or slip while they are learning to master flooring or steps & helps prevent any injury to their growing bones.

Jan 27, 2012
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STAIRS
by: SHERRY/COTTON

WHEN COTTON WAS A PUP WE TOOK HER TO A DOG SHOW, SHE
READILY WENT UP THE STAIRS AND WHEN WE WERE LEAVING SHE
STARTED DOWN AND HIT HER LITTLE CHIN ON ONE OF THE
STEPS, WE HEARD HER TEETH HIT. SCARED US AND HER--I HAVE
NOT LET HER TRY GOING DOWN SINCE THEN. I ALWAYS CARRY
HER DOWN, BUT SHE SURE ENJOYS RUNNING UP.

I WOULD THINK WITH THEIR SHORT LEGS IT IS DIFFICULT FOR
THEM TO HEAD DOWN -- MAYBE WHEN PUPPY IS OLDER IT MIGHT
BE A LITTLE BRAVER. GUESS YOU HAVE TRIED TREATS AND SUCH?

GOOD LUCK!!

Jan 27, 2012
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More answers about fear of stairs
by: Gale

Check out this page about Cotons afraid of stairs
where a similar question was asked and answered. Hope it helps.

Jan 27, 2012
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by: Laura

My 9 yr old never would use the stairs to get on our bed, even with treats. I finally sold them at a garage sale. Now I just pick her up and she barks or wakes me up to get down. My other coton is like a cat, up and down the bed, and sleeps on the top of the sofa........

Jan 27, 2012
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puppy coming down stairs
by: Anonymous

Our Coton was nearly a year old before he was comfortable going up and down stairs so give him time. Our dog is still hesitant on wooden stairs and stairs that are new to him.

Jan 27, 2012
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Stairs
by: Anonymous

Our 3 year old Coton does the exact same thing, but only into the basement where our stairs are not carpeted. She is fine with our carpeted stairs, but goes extremely slow.

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Will rescued Coton puppy be a good fit with older dog?

by Edward
(Broomall, PA)

Are Coton dogs good when introduced to older adult dogs that are in the home?

We have a 7 year old Havanese who likes to play with all small dogs. Would introducing a rescue (puppy mill)Coton de Tulear be a good fit?

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Oct 22, 2011
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Your older dog with a puppy
by: Suzan

Sometimes it could be a good thing and sometimes it can be not so good but that's in any situation. From my own experience I had an older dog and then introduced a puppy. As we all no puppies are very active and playful and there baby teeth and nails are very sharp and really hurt if they playfully nip you or scratch you. My older dog tolerated the puppy and the older dog wasn't playful she liked sleeping and eating and going outside to do her business. Where as the puppy would bother her when she slept and when she'd try to get away the puppy jumped on her to play this is where I had to stop the puppy so my older dog could get away. I didn't want anything to happen between the two, however if your older dog likes to play and run then I think it would be good company but you would still need to keep an eye on them at first. If your older dog is laid back and likes to lay on your lap and get all the attention and then bringing a puppy in the mix might make things more work on the pet parents because puppies are into everything animals are territorial especially when they have been top dog all their life. I would weigh the pros and cons I think its wonderful giving any dog a wonderful loving forever home. Good Luck to you. Coton de Tulears are wonderful,loving adaptable dogs the question to ask will your older dog be the same? Its a tough call but you will make the right choice you should have them meet first if you allowed to do this with the rescue place. Whatever your decision it will be the right one for all.
Suzan Mesquite, NV

Oct 22, 2011
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Introduce them first if you can
by: Anonymous

In general, I think Cotons get along great with other animals, but you never really know with rescue dogs. I work in a shelter and we let people bring in their own dogs to meet with the prospective adoptive dog to make sure they get along. You can never know everything about a rescue, but even those who weren't socialized properly can overcome it with lots of love and patience. Good Luck

Oct 22, 2011
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by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

Jonah my Coton is wonderful when another dog come to stay or visit when friends go on vacation or to visit. You also will have a wonderful mix in your home since they are in the same family of breed. Good luck I feel you will not be disapointed.

Oct 22, 2011
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good fit
by: KATHY FROM PA

I HAD THE REVERSE SITUATION...WE HAVE A 3 YEAR OLD LAB RESCUE, AND BOUGHT A COTON....THEY HIT IT OFF RIGHT AWAY AND ARE BEST OF FRIENDS....THESE ARE THE BEST LITTLE DOGS..... GOOD LUCK,

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My 14 week old pup just bites, should I be concerned.

by Afi
(Vancouver, BC)

He bites at everything everything. It hurts and he becomes vicious at times. What should we do?

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Dec 17, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah

Put some butter on your top part of hand when you play with him for awhile. He will lick the butter not bite. Praise praise praise. If he gets to bite when butter is not on say No & stop play or petting. Which shows him bite doesn't get reward.

Should not take long but it won't be overnight. They also need something to chew on like a frozen Kong, baby washcloth because they r doing it because their cutting teeth. Even a frozen baby pacifier will work.


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buying two cotons together as puppies how is best to train them

We are thinking of getting two coton pups together is this a good idea?

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May 22, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

I disagree that u cannot get 2 in the same litter. Ea pup thou needs his own walks. This way they learn 2 walk on a leash b 4 venturing out together. Together it makes it harder since ea 1 will want 2 b ahead of the other. I also like if u hve a frt yd that they go 2 the bathroom b 4 walk starts. Walks r 4 walks. I am nt saying if they hve 2 go 2 nt let them go but its nt 2 pee on every bush.

Now if u live in an apartment house & this is their only bathroom option I know u must fit ur lifestyle & if u move they can always b retrained. But whn u start walking 2 if they r use 2 peeing on everything it becomes a pain.

Also whn small ur really looking @ a 5-10 min walk ea. since their legs r little & bones r growing. Whn training put 1 in the crate while u work w/1 then switch. The same goes 4 fetch so ea. learns without the other 1 stealing it. Again training whn young lasts 5 min. 3 times a day ea. since attention spans r not that long.

This does not mean u can't throw 1 or 2 balls at a time together other times but by ea learning 2 b an individual it will decrease dependency. Now don't get me wrong they will bond and that is ok but this way they also become individuals and weather in the same litter or diff they will band.

U also can take them at the same time & enroll them in an obedience class then crate the 1 & work the other in the 2nd class. Anyway u can only work 1 at a time.

Enjoy ur pups I have never gotten 2 at same time but I did 6 mos. apart it was nice having them grow up together but alot of work also. Good luck.

May 19, 2013
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by: Mrs. C.

I have a 10 month old female cotton and we just went through Obedience level 1. Our trainer said never, ever, get two puppies from the same litter. The reason she gave is because the two puppies from the same litter have already bonded to each other and they have separation anxiety when you try to work with one. This was seen first hand at our class when on of the people had two German Shepherd's from the same litter. They would go bonkers when ever she tried to work with one. She had a male and a female and the female was awful. It was like she was having a panic attack when the other one was being worked. For this reason I would not get two from the same litter. I think it is great to have two, however get one first and get it acclimated and tuned into you and then introduce the second one from a different litter. It doesn't matter if they have the same lineage, its the litter mate bonding that you want to avoid. Good Luck!

May 08, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

It's a wonderful idea to have 2 grow up together. Training should b done separate so each have their own time. So remove 1 from ur training area. Easier. When pups basically try 5-10 mins. 3 times a day. Attention span.

Time yourself w/a timer for 1st week this way u will realize that u do get alot accomplished in 5 mins. The 1st couple days may be a little awkward that why I suggest a week.

Please ck out this book. I found mine at Petco & spent 1 hr reading it before I left the store to see if I would like it. In addition to tricks it contains easy step by step w/pictures on obedience, agility, jumping, hunting, retreiving and dance.

The step by step instruction is easier then yrs. ago how I learned in obedience class. The book is: "101 Dog Tricks" Kyra Sundance and Chalcy. Cost $19.00.

Cannot wait to see pictures.


May 08, 2013
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by: Anonymous

It sounds great to me - are you getting brother and sister or two of the same? They're such a pleasure and I'm sure you'll enjoy them. Joyce

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Can you predict what your puppy will look like as an adult dog??

by Candee
(California)

We are hoping to get a Coton de Tulear soon, and like the look of the flatter face, more snub-nose look, as opposed to the longer face. Also, hoping that as an adult, it will be on the smaller side. Can you predict by looking at the parents of the puppy? Or, is it safer to get the "runt" of the litter?

Whatever the dog looks like when it's older, we will adore it, of course, but wondered if this is something we have a choice on...

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Sep 15, 2011
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Snub nose??!!
by: Anonymous

Thanks, Iris!
I hadn't heard that term, "snub nose", until reading it on one of the many Coton websites I have been researching ...the link is cotondogs.com/recent_news.htm

"Some Coton de Tulear have long noses characteristic of Terriers, some are snub nose with rounded faces."

The bottom line is, all Cotons are adorable!

Sep 14, 2011
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what size and kind of a face?
by: Iris Miller

I was very surprised at how my dog Tuffy changed from a six week old puppy to a now three year old. He has gone through so many metamorpheses! I think it is no easier than knowing what your newborn human baby will grow to look like. Just gotta love and care for them,no matter what. By the way, I never heard of a snub nosed Coton, they are not that kind of" they are more fox like nose, or terrier type muzzel, as far as I know. With all the hair, you never really know until their first "puppy"cut, who's under all that hair.Then the texture and color changes,and you continually have a new dog! Take a look at my "Tuffy" Coton, his family album and pictures I have posted of him, you would not believe (except for the look in his eyes and the smile on his face) that this is one and the same dog.
I love my Coton!
Iris & Tuffy

Sep 14, 2011
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European breed lines
by: Anonymous

Cotons with European breeding are usually smaller than the American breed lines. Look at both parents and see if they have the look and size you want.

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what sign do i get when my puppy wants to pee outside?

by Morticia93
(Montenegro)

My 5 month coton pees outside, but if i'm not paying attention on him he will pee in the house. I need a sign from him, every time when he wants to pee he just stay in the hallway and stay stiff and looks at me, but what if i am not in the hallway? I need a different sign from him. I dont know how to change that.

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Aug 26, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah

5 months is a young pup. They really do not have full function kidneys yet. A good rule of thumb to follow is they eat they pee, they drink they pee, they wake up they pee, they play they pee. Even they stiff at the carpet they have to pee.

So every time u take them out start using the bell sound & a treat per pee.

Aug 13, 2013
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by: Morticia93

My puppy can hold it all night until i get him out.
I will try that technique with bell! thank you!

Aug 12, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Our sweet boy Charlie rings the Indian bells hanging on our door when he wants to go out. He scratches the door upstairs.

Aug 12, 2013
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by: Kevin

I had the same issue, and wondered if this was typical or not. I suppose it is!

My thinking is that, Cotons being generally quiet unless alarmed, their communication is more subtle. I have been learning to pay closer attention to Missy's behavior. I know that she knows what she is supposed to do, but she hasn't figured out yet how to communicate her needs. I do get some subtle cues from her. Hopefully, over time, we will meet comfortably somewhere in between.

The bells idea sounds like an excellent one, though!

Aug 12, 2013
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I have been thinking the same thing!! My Coton is also 5 months old. She goes outside to pee just fine (and when she is home alone for an extended time she has a pee pee pad in her pen), BUT, if I am not paying attention to her walking to the back door then she will pee on the floor! So, I try very hard to keep her on a schedule to avoid accidents, which seems like I can't get her past two hours when she is active. Yet, she can hold it all night no problem (in her crate) How long can your baby hold it? I am hoping with keeping to a routine and as she gets older it will all be ok. Hopefully I am doing an ok job in training her, its been a long time since I had a puppy!! LOL

Aug 12, 2013
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by: Sydney's Mon

I hung a set of Christmas bells 2" off the floor right beside the door and made Syndey tap them every time I took her outside for a potty break and after a few weeks she started ringing them on her own when she needs to go out. It's great since she doesn't bark at the door when she needs to go and never really gave us any other signs.

Aug 12, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Murphy is a great boy in the outdoor bathroom when we get him there. Almost 5 months, too, he doesn't always give us the message, so we don't wait anymore, but take the lead. Good luck!

Aug 12, 2013
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by: Betty

While others may have tips about ways your Coton can alert you, I finally got mine trained by schedule. I take him out for potty and a short walk the first thing every morning, at noon (or at least by 1:00ish), evening around 5-6 pm and finally again at 10:30 pm. They can hold their bladders for about 4-5 hrs. and once we got the routine going, it was great. He's now 3 yrs. and will pretty much pee or poop on command.
Good luck - things get much better once you get this thing conquered.

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Crate, playpen, pee-pad logistics for Coton de Tulear Puppy

by Tracy
(Florida)

Coton de Tulear Puppy

Coton de Tulear Puppy

I got my Coton pup on 3/16 and couldn't be more excited! I have bought a small crate, a playpen and puppy pee pads (among other things, of course).

Ultimately, as an adult dog, I hope he'll sleep in the crate next to my bed at night and have run of the house during the day. I'd like him to use pee pads inside the house (kept in a spare bedroom that we never use) if we're gone too long, but will be taking him out regularly to do his business outside, too.

So...as an 8-week old pup, what are the logistics involved? If I put the crate next to my bed, should it just stay there all day? I could put him in the playpen then when we can't focus on him (like when making dinner or something). Or should I also move the crate out to the living room each morning so that he can use the crate during the day if he needs a little puppy nap?

I understand crates are supposed to be where the family is, so I worry that if its tucked away in the bedroom, he wouldn't use it during the day.

Also, if I use pee pads, should I put them in the play pen while he's so young or put them in the spare room where they'll be permanently later on?

Am I just over-thinking all of this?

Thank you!

Tracy











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Apr 02, 2010
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Pee pad location
by: Moxamomma Iris

I have had my Coton since he was a six week old pup.He is now two years old and could probably speak English, he knows so many words and commands. Coton's are extremely intelligent.I think mine is a reincarnated human!

The first words he learned was go pee. I lived in an apartment at the time in California and I put a pee pad on a bath rug in the bathroom where his crate, a bed, and toy box were. The room was oversized so it was a sort of kennel for my dog and his food and water were also in there nearer the door (far from the pee pad ) and he had a see through gate at the doorway so he was safe while I was away at work. I stayed home with him the first week and continually hovered over Tuffy and would say go pee when he was doing the deed. I would also watch when he was ready to go and sniffing around, I'd place him on the pee pad and say go pee. Then he got a lot of praise, good boy make pee, and would get a treat. He picked up on it fast.

Then we moved to a condo in Connecticut and I put the pee pad closest to an outside exit in the living room, in front of the sliding door to the deck. We also put a privacy screen behind the pee pad holder which was good for the dog and less intrusive if we had company.

One big mistake I made was putting a second pee pad upstairs in my bedroom. After stepping off the pee pad Tuffy would leave pee paw prints on the rug, so more times than not, he would sniff the scent on the rug and pee half on the rug, half on the pad!

Now he is fully trained to go pee and poop outside and no more pee pads. We recently moved again, and I tried to get him to use the pee pads because of the bad weather, but he refused and actually gave me a look that said: how insulting!. So now its rain or shine, snow and ice, we go pee and poop outside!

He will "go in" to his soft sided carrier his "cave", but not the metal crate. I put his carrier in the crate and now he goes in, but only to hide from me if he thinks I am trying to catch him for doing something wrong (like pulling the stuffing out of his toys), or to avoid a bath. Tuffy sleeps on my bed at my feet, and naps in his bed in the kitchen next to his crate. When he feels too warm he prefers to sleep on the floor.P.S. Woolite makes an excellent foam cleaner that removes pee stains and barf.

Hugs, Iris & Tuffy

Apr 01, 2010
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Congratulations on your new puppy
by: Anonymous

Hi Tracy, thanks so much for sharing a photo of your beautiful new Coton puppy. He's adorable!

I know what you mean about overthinking the situation. It can be a little overwhelming to care for such a young puppy and you want to do things right so he doesn't develop bad habits.

The good news is that in my experience, the Coton is pretty smart and picks up housetraining pretty quickly. The most important thing at 8 weeks is being very consistent. Puppies that age usually have to go every 1 or 2 hours and especially after they eat, sleep and play. So make sure to take him to his pads or to a designated outdoor spot during those times and whenever you see him circling or sniffing.

I think having the crate in the same room as the family is a great way to make him feel comfortable and safe in his new home.

The best place for the wee pads are where he won't have to go far on his own to find the pad. You don't want a puppy that young unsupervised so you can move the pads to an area where the family is as well (until he's a little older). A spare room sounds pretty isolated...

EVERYONE gets a little overwhelmed with a young puppy so just relax and enjoy your new Coton.

You can check out more crate training tips here and I'd love to hear from anyone else who has had good luck with crate training.



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Puppy Picking Question

There is a breeder out of state who has beautiful pure bred coton puppies. If we get one I want first pick but I wanted to be able to be at the house and see how the puppies interact with each other before I decide because it's real important that I get the puppy with the temperament that I want and I have found when I pick them from the litter, I have always been happy because I can see how their temperaments are with each other (which is how their temperament will be with us).

The problem is when the litter is born, she posts the puppies on her website and as soon as someone pays the deposit, that puppy is taken. So, I could not be able to visit the puppies first since by that time all the puppies would probably be taken (sometimes they are literally spoken for within a few days after she posts them on her website.)

She does not allow people to visit until at least 6 weeks because she does not want the puppies to get parvo (she had one time where people came to visit before 6 weeks when they get their first immune shot and the puppies contracted parvo from the visiting persons because they had not yet gotten their first parvo shot).

Any suggestions? Her puppies are beautiful and it's hard to find a breeder that has coton puppies that actually look like pure coton puppies. But I am disappointed that by the time I would want to pick one from the litter that they would probably all be spoken for. No doubt all her puppies are really handsome and pretty so they would all look beautiful, but I also want a sweet mellow puppy who isn't the alpa or the omega, but one in between who seems to really like us. I can only tell that if I see them in person and pick one out but it doesn't look like she does it that way, it's first deposit sent, first pick, within a few days of posting usually. I would know the beautiful appearance but not know the temperament until we brought the puppy home (and then it's too late).



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Feb 04, 2014
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by: Anonymous

Thank you so much Barb for all of your information. I do very much appreciate it. I would prefer not to provide email since one thing I really love about this website is that folks can be completely anonymous and exchange info. about cotons freely so I am most comfortable leaving it the way that the website has been designed. But that is not to say that I do not greatly appreciate your desire to help and what you have provided about the breeder as well as your coton has been of great value and I do thank you so much. I am gathering all info., much I have gained from contributors to this sight in deciding whether or not we may acquire another coton in the future. One thing that I keep coming across, as another contributor also stated it somewhere in this site, is that separation anxiety seems to be an issue with cotons if left alone for more than a few hours. It appears that this is not something that is easily remedied with some cotons unfortunately.

Feb 04, 2014
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by: Barb

My coton is 3 years old. I purchased Schnappy because I knew that I was going to have to put my other coton down. I had him for 14 years.

Feb 04, 2014
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by: Barb

Yes, I do work full time. Schnappy is anxious when I leave. I leave him plenty of toys when I am gone. I would like to be able to talk to you personally about the breeder and the dog. I have no complaints about my Coton or the breeder. He has a great personality. Maybe you could provide you e-mail address and we could communicate that way.

Feb 03, 2014
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by: Anonymous

Barb, may I ask is your coton with you all day or do you have to work full time or part time? If full time or part time I am wondering does it have separation anxiety or do ok?

We work at home now and have for the past 14 years but if we get another dog after our dog passes away (he's almost 14 now), 15 years is a long time and no one can predict if work circumstances will stay the same or change over the next 15 years so I was wondering if you are with your dog all the time or if you have to go outside the home to go to work and how often that is, and how your dog does.

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by: Anonymous

To Barb, thanks so much for your note. It's great to have met someone who has acquired from this breeder and is happy. How old is your coton now? I take it it's healthy and you said it has a nice temperament? Thanks again.

Feb 03, 2014
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by: Barb (Alb.

Yes I did get mine from Coton Cottage. Very happy with the dog.

Feb 03, 2014
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by: Debbie

Hi.
I wanted to respond to your question about who our breeder was. She is in Phoenix, Arizona and her name is Marilyn Smart. Our Gracie's sister actually is Barbara Streisand's dog, Sammie. Gracie was born May 21, 2003. Marilyn's website is www.simplygrandcotons.com. She is very thorough and a strong advocate for Cotons. If you call her,tell her Debbie Rose sent you. I am still in touch with her occasionally and she's always been accessible .

Let me know how it goes. Good luck


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by: Anonymous

Hi, to the 2/3 post from Barb, the breeder is Coton Cottage. Did you get yours from there or from some other breeder? Thanks.

Feb 03, 2014
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by: Barb (Alb)

Please let me know who the breeder is. This may be the same breeder where I got Schanppy. I can tell you that if it is the same breeder I am very happy with my coton. I purchased him from a breeder in Ohio. His personality is great. The breeder was very helpful in making the arrangements in getting him shipped out to Albuquerque, NM.

I can understand the concerns of the breeder. My vet would not even allow me to take him anywhere until he was up to date on all of his shots.

Feb 02, 2014
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Choosing breeder
by: Debbie

When we chose our coton, Gracie, almost 11years ago, we chose a very reputable breeder even before Gracie was borne. She asked us as many questions as I asked her. I was able to call her during that time and while the puppies grew, she was able to observe their various personalities and knew which puppy would fit with which family. She chose perfectly for us and I don't think we could have gotten a realistic view of their personalities within a few hours. Choose a good breeder though.

Feb 02, 2014
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Thanks for your advice...
by: Anonymous

Thank you for the posts. Because of your posts, I think I have decided to stick with what I know...meaning, IF we get another coton puppy, (because our coton now is almost 14 years old and has lived almost 4 months past his life expectancy by our vet - and is still doing well! (He has a heart condition) I am thinking that I will only get a puppy if I can personally meet the puppies and pick one out myself, even though this other breeder's website is very beautiful.

That approach of personally picking my puppy from the litter has never done me wrong. If I am unable to do that, then maybe we won't get another dog.

Feb 02, 2014
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Puppy picking
by: Anonymous

We got our Coton from a retired couple. I asked if they had papers and they did. Since this was our first experience with a registered dog we didn't know what to look for. We have since been told by a breeder that the papers we have essentially mean nothing. So what I'm trying to say is find out if they have the pups registered with a reputable registry.

Feb 02, 2014
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Where are you located? Have you checked for other breeders? I will be looking to adopt a Coton within the year and I do understand your concerns. I want the RIGHT puppy for me. I do not want to be disappointment after waiting all they years to get one of these adorable dogs. I wish you the BEST in your puppy journey.

Feb 02, 2014
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A question for the responders
by: Anonymous

Hi, I posted the question and am asking the prior responders the following to get more of their thoughts:
Well, the breeder did email me a questionnaire to complete and we spoke over the phone. And she provides pedigrees with serious inquirers. But I think if the answers on the questionnaire look acceptable to her, I do not believe she requires to meet in person before placing a pup if I send in the deposit. Do you still think I should look for another breeder? I really appreciate your advice on this.
Also, I noticed that one of her breeding dogs, once she turned 6 years old. became for sale. I was really surprised because I don't know how someone could part with one of their adult cotons after 6 years of it living with their family. I think she sold it in order to acquire a younger one who she could continue the breeding with since the older one was getting too old to keep breeding. Is this common with breeders? That once the breeding female starts getting up there, they sell it to acquire a young one to breed?

Feb 02, 2014
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Puppy Picking
by: Anne/Glenmoore

Well said Carole. Any breeder worth their salt, is going to want to make sure your new Coton fits into the family. There are so many unsavory breeders for any breed - so do your research on this breeder and look for other recommendations.

Feb 02, 2014
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Pick of liter
by: Carole

Find another breeder. She should be interviewing owners, not selling to whomever comes first. It is important to see how the puppies interact. I have a very dominant Coton. We just purchased a Great Dane. I was able to visit every week from 1 week on. She had me take precautions...remove shoes outside, sanitize hands. I picked the perfect pup for us. We are older and I did not want a hyper dominant dog. This breeder puts money over the happiness of her pups.

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Puppy Training-HELP!

by Rebecca
(USA)

Hi All,
Thank you so much for the help on my previous post about picking a name for our puppy. We decided to name him Bode (BO-DEE). We brought Bode home 5 days ago and have begun to potty train him. We decided to go with the crate training method of training and take him outside about every hour. Things were going great for the first day (no accidents inside!!) however, in the last few days Bode has had several accidents in his crate. It is strange we will take him on long walks and he will go #1 just fine but refuses to do #2 outside. Right now we have about 1 1/2 ft of snow so I take Bode out and stay out as long as I can until he starts to whimper and sit down on the ground and just stare at me. I am not sure what to do, I know he needs to go but I am worried that when he starts crying that it means that he is cold (it has been about 5 Degrees here everyday). Also, he wont begin crying until about 20 mins into our time outside.


Any advice on what we should do?


Also, is it normal for Bode to literally chew on EVERYTHING he can get his hands on? We have tried to stop this by taking whatever it is he is chewing out of his mouth and replacing it with one of his toys but it seems that he becomes more chewy everyday. Any advice would be very much appreciated. We know how important it is to begin training right away and just want to make sure we do what is best for little Bode.
Thanks!
Rebecca

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Dec 29, 2012
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Potty Training NEW
by: Jolie's Mom

Jolie does pretty good, however, there are times taht she will do #1 outside and then play around, only to come inside and do #2 on the floor! I always take her to the same place in the yard and she does her "potty dance" She will run back and forth, then spin in a tight circle 3 or 4 times and then go. really funny.
Her brother, Kayne, a Maltese, almost NEVER does #2 outside. He goes in a spot on my carpet or on the tile in my kitchen. It doesn't matter how long he stays out, he will come inside to go. He had previously been with people who had 5 other doggies of various size and breeds and the used a doggie door. I'm still working with him, but I would appreciate any suggestions.

Dec 13, 2012
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trainning
by: Trudy's mama

We started to potty train Trudy the minute we got her but the weather was cold also. So we used newspaper by the door we wanted her to go to. Whenever she acted like she had to go we put her on the paper. I added bells to the door knob and shake them everytime she went. When the weather got better i ran the bell before taking her out (every 30 min -1 at first). pretty soon she was ringing the bell to go out.

It took my Trudy a bit longer than 6 months, she did pretty well but had accident every now and then. But she got fully potty trained soon enough (like 9-10 mo)

Vet told me that when she went outside and did her job i had to reward her OUTSIDE. If you give the treat once you are inside you are confusing the dog (seemed to work for trudz).

She also never went #2 whenever we were walking her..she wanted to be home for that hehe..until we went camping and she had to. So i wouldnt worry about it, she may not be ready yet (i was told she has to be comfortable and "own" her environment)

I think potty training is all about watching for the right signal that its time to go..NOW! we finaly realized the for ours, she goes inside her cage and whimper..thats the signal its time to go.

Also always use the same word when taking her out..lets go potty ect..trudy recognize those words when i ask her if she has to go, if she does she runs to the door.

hope this helps

Dec 13, 2012
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Puppy Training
by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

All previous great advice. It sounds pretty normal for a puppy u r working thru. One nice thing about puppy pad training is this can be used life long when u travel.

Be careful w/long walks around where other dogs may have been just until all shots r gotten since they can pick up disease on their pads also. Also u probably do not want more then 5-10 min. walks starting out for growing bones.

If ur pup doesn't go within 5 mins. bring him in & keep around pad it does get cold. Just keep up when ur pup goes outside make a really big deal out of it until he jumps around & wags tail which means he knows ur talking to him.

When young they put everything in their mouth just say AhAh or no & give them what they r allowed to have this is just how they learn what they r allowed & not allowed to mess with.

Congrats & hve fun w/a puppy u r in for alot of laughs sounds like u doing just fine.

Dec 13, 2012
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Bode
by: Teresa

Hi Rebecca,

We also did crate training with training pads, infact we did this for all our dogs our Sasha was fully house trained in about 6 months, got Sasha last Xmas, did not take her out it was to cold for a puppy, what we did was put out the pads in a pad holder purchased from pet store, then the crate door was left open. We would watch her moving around if she stated going in circles we would put her on the pads. then when the weather got nicer started taking her out. No problem, We also put up a gate keeping her in the kitchen /dinning room in case of error's. We also gave lots of treats and love. Sasha still uses the crate we just leave it open she goes in and out as she wills. I sure hope this helps.

Dec 12, 2012
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patience!
by: Anonymous

Maybe he just feels uncomfortable pooing outside? Just give him some time, patience is everything! And the day he does the poopoo outside- reward him like hell! It's his first time in the snow so it's not that strange the way he reacts.

And about the chewing, maybe you should be a bit harder- more strict rules and correct him when he is chewing on something that he should not. Then you can have an eye on him- and the moment he picks up his on toy to chew on- reward him much once again!

It's all about the patience- good luck!

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